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Tonight. Does the cure for cancer
already exist? Right inside our own bodies. The power is in you. The power is within us. This man says yes, and he's
not your average doctor. We truly have a chance
to change the paradigm. His prior breakthroughs
made him billions. Now he says he's using his money
to buy more time for cancer patients. I'm using my own resources
for all of humanity. These patients say his anti-cancer protocol
has reversed their condition. When I saw this thing on my neck
going. Away, man saved my life. The published, peer reviewed data confirms
he's already saved hundreds. But despite all those success
stories, the doctor claims the government is blocking him
from saving millions more. 10,000 desperate requests daily. Every day. Doctor, please
help me. It's very hard for us
literally to play God. Is he blurring the border between
science and salesmanship? What do you make
of the criticism that your pitch is stronger
than your proof? Or is the medical establishment
trying to stop him? While patients are dying. We talk about this
being political. Political hell. It's a story told through
microscopes and macroeconomics. A story that stretches all
the way from the white House. The only person who can change that is the president
of the United States. To your house.
Every morning I wake up. I know I'm
one day closer to being cured. Thank you
for what you've done for me. That's what's
always inspiring me to fight. Killing cancer. Good evening. I'm Chris Cuomo.
First things first. Yes, you may laugh
at the mustache, but it's here
for a serious reason. I'm growing it
with other members of my volunteer
fire department to raise money for men's health issues,
including cancer. And that, coincidentally, is
what our show is about tonight. The National Cancer Institute
estimates that more than 600,000 Americans will succumb
to cancer this year alone. But the man you'll meet tonight believes he can change all that. He claims to have found the key
to killing cancer. And he says the only thing
preventing it from maybe saving
your life is your government. Should we believe him? That's the question we're going
to try to answer right now. What was life
like before cancer for you? Well, I was very active. I led a great,
you know, existence. It was back in 2015
when Jim Johnson went in for a regular checkup. He was an active 57 year
old and felt perfectly healthy. And it turned out
that I had head and neck cancer. I had a tumor on my tonsil,
and I had to tell my wife and I had cancer. That was that was really, really tough because I knew what I was going
to put her through. The road for cancer
patients is never easy. The good news is survival
rates have been rising steadily, but so has the number of cases. It's projected
that by 2035, more than 22 million of us will have heard
the dreaded words you have cancer. Those words are hard to hear
and they can be hard to say. How do I tell somebody
that they're going to die? I'm very honest. I'm very honest as to what
we can do and what we can't do. Doctor Simon Hagy
is an oncologist in Irvine, California. He specializes in glioblastoma,
the most aggressive and mostommon type of cancer
that originates in the brain. I try to level with my patients
and their families. I try to set
realistic expectations. The handful of patients
where I've helped them survive five, ten, 20 years, it's
still like 1 in 1000, right? It's a small, small number. In an age where modern medicine
has eradicated or at least controlled
lethal diseases like smallpox, polio, even Aids,
why does cancer remain the so-called emperor
of all maladies? Well,
those other diseases are caused by foreign
pathogens, viruses and bacteria. We know how to make vaccines to help our immune system defeat
those. Cancer is different. These cancers have found a way
to hide from the immune system, and this is what makes it
so difficult and so scary. Think of it like this. Your immune system is like
an army of white blood cells and other cells
called antibodies. Each type of cell
has its own function. Some attack viruses. Other attack bacteria. But cancer cells
come from our own bodies, and they know how to avoid
and disarm the immune system. In other words,
they've gone rogue. These cells do not want to die,
and they will stop listening to the rest of the body and no longer are performing
the natural function of clearing themselves
or stopping to divide. The problem with cancer
is it's yourself. It's a complicated problem, and it's individualized
and personalized. Doctor Stephen Finkelstein says the entire field
is desperate for change. There's so many patients
with cancers afflicted with cancer that we could do
so much more for enter. Doctor Patrick Soon-Shiong,
a surgeon by trade. He's more than a doctor. He's a radical thinker
who's become a multi-billionaire after taking four companies
public. This clinic in El Segundo,
California, is where the good doctor
is plotting to defeat cancer for good. I wanted
to create a system where patients could come and get
the next generation of therapy. And this is what
this building is. Now, how does this fit into your vision
of what needs to happen? You will see. What we have here is where
all the innovation happens. But Doctor Soon-Shiong, his interests
extend way beyond medicine. He's a huge basketball fan, so
he purchased part of the Lakers. He likes journalism, so
he bought the Los Angeles Times. We have now evolved
into the digital era. And he likes TV and movies. So right around the corner
from the clinic, he built this gigantic studio
to make them. This doesn't have anything
to do with medicine and I don't understand
how you can be in the movie mogul
technology business. And in the biomedical space.
What is that about? How do you explain that? The Lakers was a separate passion
that actually kept me sane. Actually,
I was very close to Kobe. The L.A. times, to me, was an opportunity to really to
educate and inspire. I really look upon this opportunity to create a platform
to inspire and educate, because that's
how I got grew up in the party. I got inspired
and educated by the newspaper. Doctor Soon-Shiong was born in South Africa to Chinese
immigrant parents in 1952. So obviously you're not African, although you grew up
in South Africa, but you were still handicapped
by that system, correct? There was only 2 or 3
Chinese allowed to go into medical school. I was the first Chinese ever
to work as an intern in a white hospital. Ever. What stays with you
from those days? The need to fight
for the underdog. To fight
for the normal, regular people. He means people like James
Johnson and singer songwriter Billie Falcon. Patients, like so many others,
set adrift on a sea of troubles when they heard
the dreaded C word. What was the diagnosis? I had cancer on my tonsil and, And then made an outward
showing on my neck. What were they going to do? Well, chemotherapy
and but heavy chemotherapy and radiation, for eight weeks
at the highest strength, which would basically they said
you might never sing again and it mightht affect you. Can Doctor Soon-Shiong really turn the tables in ts deadly
game? Well, you should know that like most people
who've made billions of dollars, he's also made
his fair share of enemies. It's important to recognize that we have to do this
in a stepwise fashion. His first brush with controversy came in the late 90s when,
after moving to Los Angeles and earning a reputation
for performing pancreas transplants on diabetes
patients, he got approval and financing to develop
a breakthrough diabetes treatment, only
to find out at the last minute that he could potentially
infect patients with a virus. I wento my financial and said, we have to shut down my program. I mean, that basis,
they sued me. Those lawsuits from angry
investors were settled, but Soon-Shiong had to abandon
all his work on diabetes. Suing I get why would they ban
you from doing research? They wanted to continue this research with a big pharma
company called Baxter. And they said to me, fine,
we'll settle if you give us all the IP,
all the technology, and you do not work in diabetes
for five years. That was one of the most
painful decisions of my life. So it wasn't that you had done something wrong
with the research. It was basically a non-compete,
correct? Done with diabetes. Doctor Soon-Shiong would pivot to an even greater
challenge cancer. So, yeah, so my goal in
life is to find the cure. The move would bring him even more attention, both good
and bad, making him successful beyond his wildest dreams
and leading him to his biggest discovery. That's the power within you
to protect yourself from cancer. You know, life has
its own reasons. Sometimes. People who have met Patrick would say he is often
the smartest guy in the room. The war in cancer is a complex
biological system. Doctor Pat Soon-Shiong is known
for thinking outside the box and inside
a tangle of squiggles. So what we need to do
is activate all of them simultaneously
in this complex dance. The way he thinks about problems is really,
in many ways, unmatched. How does it get through? He's famous
for these indecipherable drawings that somehow express
his thoughts about cells, cancer,
and cutting edge medicine. I drew it in ten minutes,
literally just what's in my head. This is also an example of why
you're not allowed to draw plays for the Lakers. Drawings like this led to Doctor
Soon-Shiong greatest hit. A chemotherapy drug
called a vaccine. It uses nanoparticles to deliver
a tumor killing chemical more safely and effectively
than prior treatments. But it can cost up to ten
grand a dose. Your drug is much more expensive
than other drugs, and that is pointed to. That's why
this guy makes so much money. He benefits from the system. How do you explain it?
First of all, that's not a factual statement,
but it's a game. Why not? What is the fact?
Because it's not more expensive. So if you have survival
for 5 to 10 years, and you give the drug
for three years and you advertise
the cost of what would survive, we have the most cost
effective number one. So you're saying
it's apples to apples? This is $6. This is $2, but the $2 one
won't be as effective over time and will be administered
more than the six. Correct. The FDA approved a vaccine
in 2005. Five years later, Doctor
Soon-Shig cashed in selling the company that owned it
and pocketing billion yens. Others might have just retired,
but Doctor Soon-Shiong
was just getting started. So what made you all the money? What gave you all the fame
and the controversy? That's not what you want
to rest on. Correct. And the money is almost,
you know, interesting. I grew up Anglican.
My wife is Catholic, and the nuns
told me no money, no mission. What I think I want to do is get to the root cause
so you can get a better outcome. So the idea is to cure cancer. Is there such a thing? You may ask? Well, I do believe so. The cynicism is. No you can't.
We are always going to die. There are always tngs
that are killing us. Everything else is marketing. How do you receive
the criticism? Because if you just look at
what are called universal truths, okay,
one of the universal truths is this oldest person
on the planet just passed away. The university Barcelona
did the entire analysis of a blood, the tissue
and everything else. The only thing that
we could find that was really positive was the protection
of the immune system. If you
had an active immune system. That's the key right there. Remember the immune system's
army of cells. Doctor Soon-Shiong
says one soldier in particular, something called
the natural killer cell, has the potential
to change everything. You have in your body. God given a cell
that kills cancer, that kills TB, that kills HIV,
that kills Covid, is cell called the natural killer
cell. That is your body's
first responder. We just haven't figured
that out. A healthy adult has around 2
billion natural killer cells in their blood. You can measure them
with a blood test called the ALK,
the absolute lymphocyte count. The doctor offered to test my. Let's see, I shoot them. I would think he had better
veins and that. Already a bad sign. He's long believed that this cell, properly functioning
and activated, can kill cancer. The problem is most
common treatments in use today. Chemotherapy, radiation. They might destroy cancer cells, but they come
with a terrible cost. They also wipe out much
of the immune system's army. What goes away? The actual cells
that are probably helping to fight the fight that we need. Everything we've been doing
adverting to inadvertently, is killing the natural killer
cells as you try to treat you. Think about that logic. Everything
from radiation to chemotherapy is been inducing the destruction
of the natural killer cells. So if you go to what you call
first principles, the only thing
that you need to protect in your body
is your natural killer cell. And if you protect that, that's
what actually not only prevents cancer, but treats cancer
and maybe kills cancer. Building on these ideas,
Soon-Shiong came up with an Activa,
an immunotherapy drug he claims has the potential
to target all forms of cancer. Activa. What does the drug do in the
For Dummies version. The natural killer cell
all have on their surface a receptor
that's looking for a protein that your body makes called
IL 15, interleukin 15. Most important
molecule is aisle 15. And TV is that aisle 15. It is the switch
that actually binds to the cell and activates and proliferates
them and make them supercharged. In other words,
when the natural killer cell is treated with IL 15,
amazing things happen. The cell becomes stronger,
more durable, and it multiplies faster, turning a normal soldier into the equivalent
of the Incredible Hulk. Powerful enough to take on those
cancncer cellsnd kill them. Take a look at this time
lapse video of a supercharged NK cell in action. So the green is a regular breast
cell, correct? The red is a breast cancer cell. Correct. And the gray. Is the natural
killer cells. So the natural killer cells has
the capacity to identify cancer cells infected cells, abnormal
cells, and selectively kill it. Th gray natural killer cells
hunting it down on the left, identifying it as abnormal cell
and killing it from the outside. You look at an expert. Watch again closely. This is the potential game
changer. The first responder NK cell killing cancer
right before your eyes. If you
give you a cell thing tiver even in healthy volunteers, it
drives up your first responders. It dries up and you protect us. And that's why I said
the power is within us. We truly have a chance
to change the paradigm. But it's a long road from the whiteboard
to the lab to the cancer clinic where real patients
get real results. To get there, you need
to go through here the FDA. And that's
where this medical genius ran into a problem
he couldn't solve. You're a fix it guy. I'm a fix. How come you haven't been able to fix your problems
with the regulatory community, with patients lives hanging in the balance, time
and hope may be running out. I was truly devastated. I'm not sure if this change
will happen. Stay with us. Hey, Jimmy. Jim Johnson
had a tumor on his tonsil. That was bad. The treatment? Worse. So they irradiated me,
the chemo with me. And where was your head? On those kinds of treatments. So I just sucked it up. I had a feeding tube
for 120 days. A feeding tube for 120 days. My mother saw me
and she burst into tears. You know you're bad when your mother
can't look at you. At least Jim's tumor went away,
at least for a while. Still, the ordeal of standard
care is why many patients, as many as 19%, according to one
study, simply refuse it. Singing hallelujah is song. Patients like singer songwriter
Billy Falcon. After learning he had HPV
related throat cancer, he chose quality of life over
quantity of life and put his faith in his faith. I believe one of my y bumper stickers would be
I will not stop living to continue to breathe. I'm not going to do that. So what was your plan? My plan was to wait on God and wait
on what I needed to do. Have you hear
the stories all the time? Celebrity cancer patients
like actress Suzanne Somers, model Elle Macpherson and most
famously, Apple founder Steve Jobs opting for alternative
treatments. I think that contributes
to a lot of patients going out and doing things that may not
have a lot of justification, okay, a lot of off label therapy
that is just out there, and they may actually be
hurting themselves. That's not what I want
for my patients. I want honesty,
and I want options for them. Doctor Patrick Soon-Shiong
believes he's found that option. His drug activa and its accompanying protocol
he calls Bioshield. How do you balance the optimism
of what you believe you can do? With the risk
of giving people false hope that this is going to be
different than everything else? I think that's why
we started this in 2015, 16, 17. We were asked
and got the FDA approval to treat patients
who had failed everything, and we treated them and
they got complete remissions. And it wasn't sort of
a one off fluke or anecdote. The proof,
he says, is plain to see. Take a look at these before
and after brain scans. Again,
this patient had a brain tumor. Now the brain tumor of
the patient had radiation, chemo and surgery. So we've taken patients
who have failed or chemotherapy, failed everything and gotten
this kind of response. Very impressive. As a visual representation. There's no chemo industry with
no radiation in this treatment. The tumor is now reducing
in months. Spent any time in Doctor
Susan Chong's clinic. And you'll see there's
no shortage of patients willing to attest
to similarly wondrous results. I'm extremely healthy. Probably too healthy for my age. All of this
is because of this treatment. This is my tumor to start with. And then with
all the treatments, it's now almost gone. The success for me was 100%, and I've been in remission
now for five years. It was Doctor Soon-Shiong reputation
for getting results like this that prompted a fateful phone
call back in 2015. That's when then-Vice
President Biden's son, Beau was fighting brain cancer. So he had brain tumor. And hifamily believes
it was from the fires and Iraq, the garbage fires
when he was serving over there. And I disagreed
with the treatment that he was about to get. And I got a call in from Vice
President Biden. And can I come to Washington. When you were asked to come in
and consult for Beau Biden? It was already too late
in the process. Yes. In this moment of deep
grief, Soon-Shiong claims he handed President Biden
a folder about an initiative that he'd brainstormed
called Cancer Moonshot. The idea was to get the federal
government to fund a project that would be
truly revolutionary, finding a cure that would make
chemo and radiation a thing of the past. Of course, Doctor
Soon-Shiong expected, and Teva still an experimental drug
at the time, to be a big part
of that moonshot. And the vice president
at that time, he wanted you to spearhead that. And how hopeful were you
at that time? I was elated because here
was an opportunity with the man that actually at this level
of of seniority and power in the government that could spur
the collaboration for a common cause
with the common good. He says he recruited several
big pharma companies and academic centers
to participate, only to be blindsided
by the administration with no explanation. He was suddenly excluded. The day after we announced it at the conference state of the Union,
President Obama turns to Vice President Biden
says no, have a second moonshot. You know, last year. Vice President Biden said that
with a new moonshot, America can cure cancer. So tonight, I'm
announcing a new national effort to get it done. And that was the moonshot that all the big pharma
and all the major academic centers
went along with. I think they got $5 billion of funding, and I'm not sure
if anything came from it. Why do you think it went nowhere
if they had all those people on board
and time and money. If they had went any way,
there was incremental change of looking at another chemo,
looking other chemo combination, another checkpoint, etc. there was not transfer mesial change or paradigm
change that we wanted to happen. What he's saying
is that entrenched interests did not really want to embrace
a new approach that threatened to make our existing treatments
obsolete. I know I'm on the uphill battle
against many forces political forces, marketing forces, or big
pharma making tons of money. Even market forces of the large
National Cancer Institute, cancer centers whose profit and their bonuses to the doctors
are based on the chemo they get.
Imagine if I make you healthy. I should get aonus for that
rather than keeping you sick. Today's the reverse. I get paid
more by keeping the sick. Doctor Soon-Shiong would spend
years fighting that battle and soon the stakes
would get even higher. When the Covid virus hit. Government leaders tell us
these tighter restrictions are necessary with this
invisible, deadly threat. Suddenly,
everyone started talking about the immune system
and then started worrying that the vaccine might have
some unintended consequences. Now, we may have something
that has replicated itself and grown and changed in a way
that could be causing cancer. Correct. That's next. Health officials on high alert
tonight, a day after confirming the first case of coronavirus
in the United States. Where were you in 2020
when Covid hit? Well,
I probably don't look great because I have coronavirus. I found myself reporting on the
pandemic from my own basement, where I'd quarantined
after contracting the virus. I'm scared by this. I'm scared. I'm scared
by the potential of this. But why are we talking
about Covid in a cancer special? Because it's a known fact
that some viruses cause cancer. Both Jim Johnson's and Billy
Falcon's tumors, for example, were caused by the human
papillomavirus, or HPV. We do know that HPV
positive patients get cancer because of HPV. When the pandemic hit, Doctor Soon-Shiong was worried
that the coronavirus was also one of those cancer
causing or oncogenic viruses, since it was known to suppress the immune system's
natural killer cells. I said, God help us
if Covid is one of them. So do the approved Covid vaccines
address COVID's cancer problem? Doctor Soon-Shiong
says unfortunately, no. They are effective at blocking
the virus with antibodies, and Doctor
Soon-Shiong says that's good. He's no anti-vaxxer,
but he says it's not enough. What you really need to do is prevent the virus
from repackaging and, more importantly,
prevent virus from shedding and clearing the cell. The most important thing to do
is to clear the virus. He began developing a booster
vaccine to do just that, again leveraging his favorite soldier
and the immune system's army. The natural killer cell. A vaccine was one of the
only ones that's now published. Frontiers of immunology. That cleared
the virus within seven days. Nevertheless, Doctor
Soon Chong's vaccine didn't make the cut for Operation
Warp Speed and was even later denied permission
for further development. Who made it to like
the round of a dozen or 14? That was still.
I was number eight. But you didn't make it
to the final, correct? Why? This is where the dogma
comes in. In virology, antibodies or everything
create antibodies quickly. Antibodies because that will
block and reduce the infection. But it doesn't clear the virus
that gets into the cell. That's so-called
dogma may have consequences. We're still trying to measure
because Doctor Soon-Shiong says his worst fears of Covid came
true. Covid is acting like HPV
and is what we call an oncogenes virus,
a virus that can cause cancer and can take young children,
create cancer, take people in remission, create cancer
because of how it works. And we gave it that chance
to learn and to change by chasing it with antibodies
instead of with antibodies. And something that would kill it
or flush it before it could mutate. When you look in tumors,
what are you seeing? There's no evidence. And when you actually biopsy
the tumors is of the spike protein inside those. Tumors
from Covid, from Covid. And then there's what happened
with Jim Johnson in 2022. He'd survived his HPV
related cancer for seven years, and he'd taken the Covid
vaccine. Then his doctor
gave him some shocking news. The cancer was back
with a vengeance. First person that they know of
on the planet, it had HPV metastasize on
to his. Liver and they didn't know why. I had no idea why. This is why I worry when I'm now seeing ten year
olds with colon cancer. I had a 13 year old died at
a clinic with pancreatic cancer. I'm seeing a lady
who's very close to me where the same moment
30 years ago, never had mission for 30 years, got Covid,
and now it's good metastasis. Fearing that a wave of Covid
related cancer is just beginning to hit us, Doctor Soon-Shiong
spent four more years trying to get his drug activa
approved. You have a license number. But the moment
of joy would be short lived. As the good doctor's
critics claim, he's blurred the line between hope and hype. What do you make
of the criticism that your pitch is stronger
than you approve? That's next. Okay. You should be able to share now. April 2024. After years of anticipation,
we acknowledge receipt. Thank you. The Food and Drug Administration
finally gives the green light to Activa. The pioneering
immunotherapy doctor, Patrick Soon-Shiong,
has been developing for more than a decade. We have a license number O activated natural killer
cell for life. The vision is transformative. Harvest NK cells from patients
everywhere or people
even without cancer like me. This farm is going to full of you. Got it. So I'm just hoping. Then if and when they're needed, treat them with activa
to supercharge them. Freeze them in units like this. And ultimately freeze out
chemotherapy. What is this? This is quiet and preserving
your natural killer cells. So all the vials of natural
killer cells that we take out, and we then modify the natural
targets of tumor with frozen. Taken upstairs to the clinic. Thawed. Infuse in 30 minutes,
and that's a treat. What is expected by the patient
in terms of side effects? You come in here.
This is an outpatient. You'll get an infusion, and you'll get a little bit
of tired because of the proliferation of this. In case of a red flare. That's it. From doctor
Soon-Shiong wants this in every cancer clinic,
treating every type of cancer. And he thinks
that's a reasonable goal, since other common drugs
have been approved to treat other types of blood
cell deficiency, regardless
of the specific cause. These two drugs
have been approved for decades for all cancers. We should have this approved
for all cancers. But the FDA had other thoughts. I'll drug is approved, but even not just for a tiny piece of a subset
of a subset of bladder cancer. That's right. As of today,
Activa is not available for patients
with every other type of cancer breast, lung, brain,
you name it. For that to happen, the FDA says it needs more
trials, more data, more proof of safety and effectiveness,
and more time. Lots of time. I've got patients ten years and you want me
to do a randomized trial that would take
another five years in response? I almost fell off my chair. Why aren't results like this
as obvious as they present? Enough? Like, why is it
that the clinicians or the FDA or whatever the standard is,
is not impressed by this? I think we stuck
in the old assumptions. We stuck in to check the box and we stuck
and show me chemotherapy. Do a randomized trial
against chemotherapy, knowing what
the results of chemotherapy are. They don't recognize that
this is a ubiquitous treatment of your immune system. You shouldn't ask
what cancers that. That's what we're trying
to get the FDA to understand. But maybe there's more to it
than that. Critics have argued
that Soon-Shiong has a history of making inflated claims
about medical breakthroughs, of relying more on impressive
images and patient testimonials than long
term peer reviewed studies. In short, he has a reputation
as a hype man that has harmed his street
cred as a scientist. What do you
make of the criticism that your pitch is stronger than your proof? I want ten living patients to walk into the Oval Office
and shake the president's hand. That, to me, is the proof. Living, walking
people who otherwise had failed all treatments
on this planet alive. I don't know what other proof
you can have. You know, it's not a fancy paper
in the new digital medicine. Even though we are publishing
the new internal medicine we published in the Journal of
Urology, we published in nature. But that's not my goal. My goal is to really, really change
the outcome of mankind. For now, the only people allowed
to take active are those without one type of bladder cancer
for which it's been approved, or those admitted to one of his
clinic's ongoing trials. He only has capacity for a few. The rest he must reject. So here is what you haven't
been able to fix. Which is the demand and ten. Thousand desperate requests daily. If you look at this one. September 26th. Doctor, please help me. It's very hard for us
literally to play God. Behind each message. A patient in pain,
a family in crisis. Well, the ones that get
you have to be the kids, right? So this is what's heartbreaking. If you look at this,
my two year old nephew is kind of going through chemo. I mean, this is going on and on. And getting accepted
into any clinical trial for experimental treatment
is no easy task. Just ask Jim Johnson. Eventually
he had so many tumors. His oncologist dropped him. And he said, there's
nothing more I can do for you. Your last chance
is to get into a clinical trial. I try to get into half a dozen
clinical trials. You know, and all the big hospit every case. The pharmaceutical companies
kicked me because my case was so unusual. They were afraid
that I would skew their numbers. They knew that their stock
valuation was more important in my life. Jim's last hope was getting into one of Doctor
Soon-Shiong trials, and that's when he finally caught
a stroke of luck. He's been coming here to the clinic for treatment
for the past 18 months. And the results? He says, are nothing
short of miraculous. Liver enzymes are down. Lymphocytes are up. White
blood count is back to normal. It's been six months
since my last MRI. I have no new tumors. I got nothing. Man saved my life. Billy Falcon was also admitted
for active trial. He had the same kind of result. In three weeks. This was gone three weeks. Yeah. 24 weeks. Yeah. What are your bloods showing? My bloods have been perfect. My blood. And I'm not. I'm not a scientist at all. But every time
they take my blood, they say your blood is perfect. So there's no cancer
that they're saying. Not in there at all. Just last week,
the latest test confirmed Billy's cancer is gone. So this is Billy. And there's what he was talking
about on his neck. And he had this tumor. And as you could see, the
massive size of the tumor within a couple of months,
and you see the clinical, Output
kicking and splashing that. Yes. The medical field is rife
withmpressive individual cases that are anecdotally accurate
but statistically meaningless. Still. Doctor Soon-Shiong
says that nearly a thousand people have been treated
successfully with Activa, most after standard
treatment has failed. And the extraordinary results
are the rule, not the exception. We have now patients
with bladder cancer alive ten years out. You call that a cure? Free of disease? Merkel cell cancer. Six, eight, nine years out,
people with metastatic pancreatic cancer
still alive today, six years out and on and on. And we've got complete
remissions. But remember, they are among the very lucky,
very few cancer patients. Doctor
Soon-Shiong is able to treat. Many of the rest
are likely to die. And that is hard
for him to live with. Why do I have to make
those decisions? Is it ethically correct
and morally correct to allow patients to die just so you can pass through
a regulatory hurdle? A lot of people
can't get into the situation that you're in right now. What do you think of that? The people that can't
get the kind of help I got. I think it's horrible. That's what's haunting me. But maybe that's what's
also inspiring me to fight. Coming up, there's new
leadership in the Oval Office, and a new health secretary
has this disruptors day finally arrived?
I think the only person who can fix ththat is
the president. That's next. The golden Age of America begins
right now. When Donald Trump returned
to the white House this year, he promised to tackle America's
chronic disease epidemic and. Keep our children
safe, healthy, and disease free. And in a move
that raised eyebrows, he appointed the Ma
firebrand Robert F Kennedy Jr to lead the Department
of Health and Human Services. News reports have claimed
that I'm anti-vaccine or any industry. I am neither. I am prosaic. In. As a vaccine developer himself,
Doctor Soon-Shiong says he doesn't fully agree
with Trump or Kennedy. However, he does see the shift
in leadership as an opportunity. When Bobby Kennedy got
put on board, I believe
eventually that he really was all about the immune system. I think he still is. This May,
the entrepreneur doctor's mission
took him to the Middle East for a meeting with both Trump
and Saudi Arabia's Crown
Prince Mohammed bin Salman. I said right in front of them
that health care and the curing of cancer,
the treatment of cancer, is the best foreign policy
we could have because that is for humanity
rather than left, right. If we transport health care,
curing of cancer, the technology as foreign policy, that's the greatest opportunity
to create peace in the world. Soon, Chang's critics
take all this glad handing as evidence that he's
cozying up to the administration and making his media empire more MAGA to advance
his own business interests. So how do you convince people
that you want to do something because you want to do good
and not just do well? That it's all about making
more money? I'm using my own resources
and my own effort and own time to actually figure out how we can actually improve cancer
care for all of humanity. Just matter in terms of
the money, in terms of billions. But what does matter
is no money, no mission. This is the mission. A mission that other respected
doctors support. He has something that he's seen at work, and
patients have gotten a therapy which has made their cancer
better. And that's why it's so important
to figure out if it works, to get it to a place
where everyone gets access. I think the rules need to be
maybe a little different, maybe a little bit more relaxed to allow for things
in development to move faster. Doctor Soon-Shiong continues
to lobby the administration to get on board with his plans
for eradicating cancer with his supercharged
natural killer cells. We've got more results. We've got great results. And I think only he,
as a president of this administration,
can make that change. And while the FDA
is still demanding more data before approving his protocol
for wider use, members of the administration
ha reached out personally asking Doctor Soon-Shiong
to help family members and friends
stricken with cancer. The billionaire inventor knows
that many are still alive because of his drug. Still fighting. Still loving. Still single. Away. Believe. Oh, are you. Not too sunshine? I never thought
I'd have the chance to thank you
for what you've done for me and for so many others. No, it's my it's it's my honor. My privilege. It's it's
an incredible moment for me. This is this year
for Miracle Worker. What gives you hope that you can help
get us to a better place? The hope I have. This is unstoppable. It's completely unstoppable. What we developing now? I just would like to see it
in my lifetime. You really believe it's not if. It's when? Correct. The power is in you. The power is within us. Let's end tonight with hope
and prayers for the millions of people around the world
living with cancer. Stay strong. Thank you so much
for joining us. For all of us
here at Newsnation. I am Chris Cuomo. Good night.