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Joe Rogan Experience #2416 - Dan Farah

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Here is a comprehensive, chronological list of distinct topics, claims, and statements from the transcript:

1. The documentary "The Age of Disclosure" is highly recommended for those interested in UFOs.
2. The U.S. government has engaged in decades of secrecy regarding UAPs, involving lies to Congress, misappropriation of funds, and clear felonies.
3. Some individuals involved in secret UAP programs likely diverted funds for personal gain due to a complete lack of oversight.
4. The "Deeply Hidden Legacy program" has spent at least over a trillion dollars since the 1940s.
5. This UAP program is much larger than commonly suspected, involving thousands of full-time personnel.
6. High-level government operatives are capable of keeping secrets, especially under threat of ruin or disappearance.
7. The Bob Lazar documentary "Area 51 and Flying Saucers" reignited belief in UFOs.
8. Childhood media like "ET," "Close Encounters," "X-Files," and "Fire in the Sky" fostered curiosity about UFOs.
9. The Travis Walton abduction story involved a beam of light, disappearance for five days, and an account of being repaired on a UFO.
10. All witnesses in the Travis Walton case passed lie detector tests.
11. The documentary's primary objective was to interview individuals with direct government knowledge of the UAP topic.
12. A concern exists that some whistleblowers might intentionally spread government-mandated misinformation.
13. This concern was alleviated by multiple intelligence, government, and military officials with diverse ideological views independently relaying the same information.
14. The alternative to these accounts being true is an unlikely, elaborate, and coordinated lie by 34 diverse individuals for no clear purpose.
15. One possible purpose for a coordinated narrative is to control the public's understanding if the real UAP situation is different from what is being said.
16. If a coordinated effort with alien intelligence exists, making the situation seem more mysterious would be advantageous to those involved.
17. Senator Rubio believes it is very urgent for the public to know the basic facts about UAPs.
18. Rubio's biggest fear is the U.S. losing a high-stakes technology race with adversarial nations like China to reverse-engineer non-human technology.
19. Rubio warns that if the U.S. does not take this seriously, China could gain an advantage, leaving the U.S. "screwed."
20. Jim Clapper, former Director of National Intelligence, confirmed that UAP activity over Area 51 is real.
21. Clapper stated that the Air Force has had a program to investigate UAPs, contradicting official claims that such programs ended with Project Blue Book.
22. Interviewees felt a strong sense of duty to disclose what they lawfully could to the public.
23. The scope of lawfully disclosable information implies that undisclosed information is even more significant or "wild."
24. Several interviewees, including Jay Stratton (director of the UAP task force), have personally seen non-human craft and non-human beings.
25. The non-human beings were described as looking very similar to those depicted in "Close Encounters."
26. An Air Force security guard and five colleagues at Vandenberg Air Force Base witnessed a giant UAP, the size of a football field, hovering before shooting off at thousands of miles per hour.
27. Official Air Force police reports exist documenting the Vandenberg UAP sighting.
28. Security camera footage of the Vandenberg incident likely exists but has not been seen by the witness or released.
29. The U.S. government has an obligation to release authentic footage of real UAPs to the public.
30. Without verifiable, high-resolution footage with a clear chain of custody, UAP reports remain "just talk."
31. Classified data from the Tic Tac incident indicates it involved a real object.
32. Ryan Graves discussed a "big red UFO" that hovered over Vandenberg in 2003.
33. Later that same night, other UAPs aggressively approached security guards at Vandenberg at rapid speeds before darting off.
34. The Vandenberg UAP sighting profoundly changed the witness's life and perception of everything.
35. Almost all UAP activity occurs over U.S. nuclear weapons sites and military bases, suggesting monitoring of defense capabilities and nuclear progress.
36. Humanity is at a dangerous crossroads due to advanced technological evolution (e.g., thermonuclear weapons) and its inherent destructive nature.
37. The UAP situation has become a humanitarian issue, necessitating public awareness and discussion.
38. Bob Lazar suggested that non-human entities view humans as "containers."
39. Humans' insatiable desire for innovation contrasts with their persistent warring nature, which holds them back.
40. An advanced intelligent species would likely be very concerned by humanity's trajectory towards creating super-intelligence while still engaging in self-destructive conflicts.
41. Multiple intelligence, military, and government officials are completely convinced that the U.S. has recovered dozens of crashed non-human craft since the 1940s.
42. Elements of this non-human technology have been successfully reverse-engineered by the U.S., China, and Russia.
43. The current situation is referred to as a high-stakes "atomic race on steroids."
44. Defense contractors like Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon, and Battelle are involved in advancing this technology.
45. Over-classification and deep secrecy within these programs hinder scientific progress.
46. The broader release of this technology is prevented by the fear that it could be weaponized by bad actors to create weapons of mass destruction.
47. This technology could revolutionize humanity, offering keys to interstellar travel, galaxy exploration, and teleportation.
48. Hal Puthoff believes that despite weaponization risks, this technology should be disclosed and managed as a humanitarian issue, with collective efforts for safe use, similar to nuclear technology.
49. China is likely pursuing reverse engineering of UAP technology "full bore" without the same ethical or classification concerns as the U.S.
50. Senator Rubio, Rounds, and Gillibrand express significant concern about China's potential lead in this technology race.
51. Some UAP crashes were accidental, while others were intentionally caused by elements of U.S. and foreign military intelligence communities.
52. High-altitude nuclear testing, particularly in the 1950s, was used intentionally to bring down UAPs.
53. Intentionally provoking a more intelligent, superior species or risking nuclear conflict through UAP takedowns is a foolish decision.
54. Extensive UAP activity has been observed in the ocean, with giant crafts tracked by submarines moving at incredible speeds without ripples.
55. The possibility exists that James Cameron, like Steven Spielberg, was "tipped off" about underwater UAPs, influencing films like "The Abyss."
56. Congressman Andre Carson confirmed that UAPs observed coming out of the ocean are "otherworldly things," not man-made aircraft.
57. The UAP task force under Jay Stratton developed a plan to lure UAPs using nuclear elements (e.g., nuclear aircraft carrier) to collect data, and it successfully worked.
58. Extensive nuclear testing in Nevada and oceans demonstrated human irresponsibility, raising concerns for external intelligent life.
59. An analogy compares advanced non-human intelligence to zookeepers observing humanity's dangerous progression (gorilla with a gun) in acquiring powerful technology.
60. Some observed UAP activity originates from reverse-engineered craft developed by the U.S. and adversarial nations.
61. Decades of multi-trillion dollar, deeply hidden programs strongly suggest significant progress in reverse engineering.
62. Experts believe the Tic Tac UAP was not man-made, as human technology 20 years ago lacked the necessary energy source.
63. The energy required for the Tic Tac's maneuvers (sea level to 80,000 ft and back for hours) is equivalent to the entire U.S. electrical output for a week.
64. The predominant theory for UAPs is that multiple non-human species exist, and their bodies have been recovered, showing at least four different body types.
65. Reported non-human types include Grays (taller intelligent ones and smaller workforce ones), Nordics/Tall Whites, and insect-like beings.
66. Some non-human intelligent life forms are thought to be non-sentient "bots" or artificial creations, potentially serving as a "workforce."
67. The intentions of various non-human intelligent life forms may range from benign to hostile.
68. The unprecedented level of access granted for the film confirms the reality of the UAP situation.
69. Two potential high-level interviewees declined to participate, stating they would be "forfeiting their lives" by speaking on camera.
70. An event at Holloman Air Force Base involved two non-human crafts, one landing, and beings interacting with Air Force and CIA officials.
71. The beings at Holloman Air Force Base were described as tall, slender, and humanoid.
72. An intelligence official heard a dying non-human being transmit the thought, "You humans don't know your full potential."
73. The legacy UAP program is a massive, multi-thousand-person operation, similar to the Manhattan Project but with even greater secrecy.
74. Bob Lazar's 1980s descriptions of compartmentalized reverse engineering, propulsion, and metallurgy match current accounts.
75. Over-classification within the secret program is now hindering progress by limiting manpower and scientific collaboration.
76. The CIA intervened to stop the transfer of a recovered craft from Lockheed's possession to the UAP task force.
77. The Lockheed leader involved in the attempted transfer died of cancer approximately two years later.
78. China's authoritarian government structure allows it to bypass classification hurdles and directly assign top talent to UAP research, unlike the U.S.
79. The film aims to legitimize UAP inquiry for the scientific community and inspire future generations of engineers and scientists.
80. A mass amnesty program for those who lied to Congress and misappropriated funds is considered essential for full disclosure, as it removes incentives for continued secrecy.
81. Senator Rubio agrees that understanding what was learned is more important than punishing individuals, especially since taxpayers funded these efforts.
82. Stronger legal whistleblower protections are needed to encourage more people to come forward without fearing for their lives.
83. A definitive statement from a sitting president declaring humanity is not alone and that recovered non-human technology exists is necessary.
84. Such a presidential statement should also announce a U.S. lead in the reverse-engineering race, mirroring Kennedy's space race rhetoric.
85. Donald Trump is aware of the film and previously contemplated public disclosure of UAP information during his first term.
86. Trump recently tasked Tulsi Gabbard with investigating the UAP situation.
87. UAP information has been deliberately withheld from sitting presidents by "career bureaucrats" in the government.
88. During Trump's first term, Treasury Secretary Mnuchin sought a briefing on UAP base facts because Trump was considering public disclosure and its potential economic impact.
89. A presidential disclosure plan, including amnesty, is crucial to manage the situation and prevent adversarial nations like China or Russia from making the first public announcement.
90. Elon Musk is suspected of having extensive knowledge about UAPs due to his involvement in space operations and required security clearances.
91. People, especially those in high-stakes positions, are capable of keeping secrets.
92. The filmmaker believes Trump is "borderline enraged" by information being hidden from the White House, which could motivate him to disclose.
93. The UAP topic is considered the most bipartisan issue of our time.
94. The filmmaker hopes for mass congressional hearings and a real conversation about amnesty to uncover the full truth.
95. Without amnesty, information will be blocked, records burned, and whistleblowers endangered by powerful, wealthy groups acting like criminals.
96. Those involved in the cover-up are perceived as normal individuals navigating an unprecedented situation, not inherently evil.
97. A post-9/11 think tank, including Hal Puthoff, advised against public disclosure of alien life due to perceived negative impacts on society.
98. The 2017 New York Times article on UAPs was a "singular tipping point" that legitimized the topic and allowed more open discourse.
99. Prior to the New York Times article, mainstream media dismissed and ridiculed UAP discussions.
100. The New York Times, however, still "hedged their bets" by revising a definitive headline.
101. The possibility that advanced aircraft penetrating U.S. nuclear sites are Chinese is "terrifying" and requires urgent attention due to China's stated adversarial goals.
102. General Jim Clapper used a 9/11 analogy, warning against waiting for a catastrophic event (like China gaining a technological lead) before seriously addressing UAPs.
103. Rubio similarly warns against "strategic surprise" from UAPs or adversaries, which historically changes the course of human history.
104. Some reverse-engineered UAPs allow for travel through the solar system.
105. This advanced technology would only be deployed in extreme situations, such as an impending nuclear war, to avoid "showing all cards."
106. It is unclear if solar system travel in reverse-engineered crafts involves human beings or drone operation.
107. There is a human psychological tendency to struggle with preparing for events that haven't been personally experienced.
108. Experts are extremely concerned about China's progress in the UAP technology race, with some incursions potentially being Chinese crafts.
109. Weaponized UAP technology, like the Tic Tac, could enable undetectable, instantaneous global nuclear strikes and transmedium weapon delivery.
110. UAPs display transmedium capabilities, moving seamlessly through air and water, and potentially through physical objects without disturbance.
111. Hal Puthoff and Eric Davis explained that UAPs warp space-time, creating a bubble around the craft that separates it from its environment and makes external conditions irrelevant.
112. This space-time warping is powered by immense energy, theorized to come from zero-point energy or quantum entanglement.
113. While specific details of harnessing this power are not publicly known, someone within the legacy program clearly possesses this knowledge.
114. The CIA effectively quarterbacks the UAP craft retrieval and reverse-engineering program, coordinating various government and contractor elements.
115. The Department of Energy uses specific laws to classify UAP material beyond presidential and congressional reach, and provides expertise on high-energy phenomena.
116. Numerous senior figures who supported the film provided guidance and information off-camera.
117. Senator Rubio, as vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, supported the filmmaker, believing this was the only way to reveal hidden UAP information.
118. The "safety in numbers" approach of the film helped overcome the cultural stigma and security threats typically faced by individual whistleblowers.
119. The ocean is considered the most logical hiding place for advanced aircraft due to its vast, unexplored nature.
120. An admiral in the film stated that the moon's surface has been scanned in more detail than the bottom of Earth's oceans.
121. A special forces operative, during an ocean recovery of a craft, witnessed a giant functioning UAP retrieve the object and depart.
122. Military personnel and scientists involved in UAP encounters have suffered biological effects, including cancer and autoimmune issues, with some dying.
123. These health issues are attributed to proximity to the immense energy generated by the crafts' space-time warping.
124. Some intelligence officials have successfully obtained Anonymous Health Injury (AHI) status from the Secretary of Defense for UAP-related injuries.
125. Specific doctors within the intelligence community specialize in UAP-related health issues, providing expert care and documentation.
126. Gary Nolan has researched bizarre materials from alleged crash sites and documented UAP encounters causing biological effects, including directed energy attacks.
127. A senior Department of Defense official experienced a directed energy weapon attack from a UAP above his house, confirmed by medical signs and physical evidence (etching in windows).
128. The Varginha, Brazil incident involved a police officer dying from a horrific bacterial infection after interacting with an injured non-human being from a crash.
129. James Fox's documentary "Moment of Contact" features credible eyewitnesses to the Varginha event.
130. The Arial School phenomenon in Zimbabwe (1994) involved children witnessing a craft and beings moving in slow motion, which is now explained by warp bubble theory.
131. The warp bubble concept explains why crafts appear to move at impossible speeds and why beings within them might seem to move slowly to external observers.
132. Lazar's 1989 description of gravity-defying propulsion using Element 115, which warps space like a bowling ball on a cushion, aligns with current theories.
133. Awareness of underwater UAP activity and suspected bases dates back at least to the 1980s.
134. The long-term secrecy (since Roswell in 1947) is partly maintained through threats to life and career.
135. Jim Clapper's on-record confirmation of UAP activity over Area 51 validates a long-standing "conspiracy."
136. Rubio's statements about presidents being excluded, defense contractors taking control, and commercialization of UAP advancements are significant disclosures.
137. The widespread leaks and increasing credibility of UAP information are leading to a public "tipping point."
138. Research into UAPs has led to learning about adjacent, equally "bonkers" topics like remote viewing.
139. Hal Puthoff's involvement in both UAP research and the Stargate remote viewing program highlights overlap between these topics.
140. Rubio revealed on camera that UAP advancements have been commercialized by some companies for profit, not national benefit.
141. Suspected commercial applications of UAP technology include hypersonic missiles, fiber optics, and night vision.
142. Defense contractors maintain control over UAP programs, operating without congressional oversight and potentially exploiting advancements for private gain.
143. A conspiracy theory suggests that materials from the Roswell crash were sent to Bell Labs for reverse engineering, leading to inventions like the transistor and fiber optics.
144. Historical accounts question the official timeline and origin of the transistor's invention, aligning with the Bell Labs conspiracy.
145. Roswell was located near a military base (Wright-Patterson Air Force Base), which housed expert reverse engineers, suggesting coordination with commercial scientists.
146. Black projects typically operate 30 years ahead of public knowledge, implying advanced hidden technologies.
147. A senior intelligence official in the mid-1970s was working on quantum entanglement for the CIA and DoD, long before its public awareness.
148. Open transparency regarding UAPs could accelerate scientific and technological progress, similar to the space race.
149. Such openness carries risks of increased espionage from adversarial nations.
150. The current UAP situation forces humanity to confront a "lie" that we are alone in the universe and to collaborate despite differences.
151. Reagan's UN speech about an external threat uniting humanity and Eisenhower's warning about the military-industrial complex are viewed differently in light of UAP disclosures.
152. Kennedy's speech against secret societies, shortly before his assassination, is also seen as relevant to the UAP cover-up.
153. Those involved in the cover-up could become "heroes" by safely disclosing information, retaining some classification for national security.
154. Full disclosure could reveal an astounding extent of deception and mismanagement, leading to public anger and competitive imbalances among contractors.
155. Major defense contractors like Lockheed and Northrop acquired smaller companies that were involved in earlier UAP programs.
156. Hal Puthoff created the Stargate program for the CIA/DoD in the mid-1970s to counter a Russian psychic spy program.
157. Stargate recruited individuals with psychic abilities through basic army training and trained them as remote viewers.
158. The Stargate program generated "real actionable intelligence" used by the CIA.
159. Active remote viewing programs likely continue within government agencies despite public claims of their termination.
160. An intelligence official used a remote viewer to locate a lost pen drive containing UAP data.
161. Former President Jimmy Carter publicly recounted the CIA using a "medium" to locate a crashed plane in Africa.
162. Remote viewing is believed to be an innate human ability that some people naturally excel at.
163. UAP encounters can enhance or "unlock" a forgotten aspect of human consciousness, potentially leading to remote viewing abilities.
164. The possibility exists that human beings are the product of genetic engineering by an advanced species.
165. Ancient texts like the Book of Enoch, describing "watchers" mating with women, could be interpreted as alien genetic intervention.
166. Hieroglyphics or ancient writing found on the Roswell craft could not be matched by researchers to known texts, except possibly some old biblical texts.
167. The filmmaker and his fiancée witnessed a star-like object in Ojai rapidly dart across the sky, which hotel staff confirmed as a common local sighting.
168. A black helicopter hovered over the filmmaker's house during an interview preparation, serving as a message of surveillance from those monitoring the project.
169. The filmmaker consciously avoided including classified information and assumed all communications were monitored.
170. John Estrich, a senior staffer for Senator Rubio on the Senate Intelligence Committee, experienced similar monitoring activity at his home during important meetings.
171. Efforts were made by some parties to prevent the film's release.
172. The film, "The Age of Disclosure," is available worldwide on Prime Video and in select theaters starting November 21st.
173. The filmmaker hopes the film will awaken the public and increase demand for action from elected leaders.
174. The base commander at Rendlesham Forest reported that after a significant UAP event in the 1980s, CIA and Air Force intelligence officials administered a truth serum (sodium pentothal) and hypnosis to witnesses.
175. The Rendlesham base commander also reported that unknown crates were removed by plane the day after the event.
176. During the Rendlesham event, communication lines on the base were shut down, except for a direct "flash override" line to the White House, typically reserved for nuclear war threats.
177. The filmmaker will continue to work on non-UAP related projects but also plans more UAP-related work, including a series based on Jay Stratton's life and a movie dramatizing the remote viewing story.
178. The filmmaker intends to create a definitive documentary about the remote viewing story.
179. A high-ranking intelligence official, pseudonymously known as Scott Andrews, had a UAP encounter as a child, developed unexplained medical issues, and gained remote viewing abilities after brain surgery.
180. Andrews discovered secret military enlistment papers from his childhood (age 12-13) with a service code of "Space Intelligence Communications," which his mother linked to his childhood UAP sighting.
181. This individual (Scott Andrews) was likely part of a secret program that exploited his abilities, and there have been multiple documented attempts on his life, potentially using directed energy weapons, since his memories returned.
182. The directed energy weapon attacks caused physical evidence like etching in windows.
183. The medical issues, including seven different parasites, were likely caused by bizarre experiments during his childhood involvement in the secret program, which he was not supposed to remember.
184. The large size of a UAP internal space compared to its external appearance is explained by space-time warping.
185. Hal Puthoff explained that photographs of UAPs appear blurry because they are taken through a space-time warping bubble, similar to photographing underwater objects from above the surface.
186. Radar has difficulty tracking UAPs because radar waves go around the space-time bubble rather than reflecting off the craft itself.
187. The theory of space-time warping provides a unifying explanation for all observed UAP performance characteristics.
188. Some recovered crafts were not crash sites or caused intentionally, but appeared almost as "gifts" or "donations" outside military bases.
189. These "donations" suggest an intentional effort by advanced species to aid human advancement or act as an "IQ test" for nations.