CIA Historian: “Aliens Control Our Government” (ft. Peter Levenda)
Channel: Unknown
Talking Points
Here is a chronological list of distinct topics, claims, and statements made by the speakers:
1. Peter Levenda is the author of *Sinister Forces*, *Secret Machines*, and *The Unholy Alliance*.
2. If multiple countries possess crashed saucers from the 1940s, there is an unspoken agreement among them not to disclose this information, akin to Fight Club.
3. JFK was assassinated due to the "alien presence."
4. E. Howard Hunt claimed on his deathbed there was a conspiracy to kill Kennedy that he knew about.
5. Blue-blooded, old-money individuals of American society attended a seance in the woods in Maine on New Year's Eve.
6. The Necronomicon is a topic of discussion, with interest from the Strategic Air Command.
7. Someone did something they were not supposed to, which may have jump-started civilization on Earth.
8. Different parts of the brain have different activities.
9. Peter Levenda is a big-picture thinker who connects non-human intelligence and UFOs with ancient traditions and mysticism, which has attracted government attention.
10. Reality might be choreographed or scripted, a concept explored in *Sinister Forces* that involves synchronicities where events are anticipated before they occur.
11. Research for *Sinister Forces* began during the Watergate scandal, which exhibited elements that defied regular political analysis, suggesting something else was at work.
12. The research involved looking into Nazi occultism, hypothesizing a mix of government and religion could bend reality, and a synchronicity occurred with an Illuminati symbol found in a hotel room during this research.
13. E. Howard Hunt, a former CIA officer involved in the Bay of Pigs, wrote at least three occult novels depicting the Kennedys as Satan worshippers, suggesting a deeper involvement than publicly known.
14. While researching E. Howard Hunt, the speaker unexpectedly worked next to Hunt's former CIA colleague, Arthur Hawkberg, who was involved in the Robert Mullen Corporation front during Watergate.
15. This experience highlights how focusing attention on a topic can attract related information and synchronicities into one's life.
16. Douglas Caddy, E. Howard Hunt's lawyer, claimed Hunt stated on his deathbed that JFK was assassinated due to the "alien presence."
17. E. Howard Hunt claimed a CIA-involved conspiracy to kill Kennedy.
18. A theory connects Nixon's 5412 commission and Howard Hughes's "S-force" Cuban assassins, originally targeting Castro, to the JFK assassination after JFK fired Dulles, with further links to Watergate through Howard Hughes's lawyer Larry O'Brien.
19. "The Nine" refers to a group of influential individuals, including Arthur Young (inventor of the Bell helicopter) and his wife Ruth Forbes Payne Young, who attended a seance on New Year's Eve 1952-1953 in Maine, led by Andrea Puharic.
20. During this seance, a medium contacted a spiritual force that solved mathematical equations and assigned participants an elite status via materialized wrist threads, later identified as residents of a UFO in low Earth orbit, subsequently contacted by Uri Geller.
21. Ruth Payne, daughter of Ruth Forbes Payne Young from "The Nine" seance, housed Lee Harvey Oswald and his family in Texas and helped him get a job at the Texas School Book Depository.
22. Correspondence after the JFK assassination shows Arthur Young's wife advised Ruth Payne not to discuss Lee Harvey Oswald or give interviews.
23. The connection between the 1952 Maine seance participants and the JFK assassination suggests a level of coordination beyond human participants.
24. Alan Dulles, as part of the Warren Commission, interrupted Ruth Payne when she mentioned visiting Arthur Young and Ruth Forbes Payne Young shortly before the JFK assassination.
25. Jim Garrison's investigation into the JFK assassination led to Fred Chrisman, who was involved in the 1947 Maury Island UFO incident, and Guy Banister, an FBI special agent reporting on UFO sightings directly to Hoover, who also shared an office in New Orleans with Lee Harvey Oswald, David Ferry, and Jack Martin.
26. The Maury Island incident in 1947 involved UFOs showering a boat with metal shards, leading to Fred Chrisman, believed to be a former OSS officer who knew Clay Shaw, the only person Jim Garrison brought to trial for the JFK assassination.
27. After the Maury Island incident, Fred Chrisman's calls led to a meeting with Air Force intelligence agents and Kenneth Arnold, where strange circumstances included a pre-booked hotel room for Arnold, a bugged location, and the subsequent death of a journalist who taped the meeting.
28. Two Air Force officers, transporting "UFO slag" from the Maury Island incident for analysis, died when their plane exploded in midair, taking the material and reports with them.
29. Fred Chrisman, who reported to Guy Banister (running "X-Files" UFO investigations), appears connected to the JFK assassination through Clay Shaw and a New Orleans office at 544 Camp Street where several figures, including David Ferry and Jack Martin, were involved in a "crazy church."
30. The American Orthodox Catholic Church, headquartered in the Bronx, was a front with mostly clergy and no parishioners, attracting individuals like David Ferry and Jack Martin, both anti-communists and linked to white supremacist groups involved in the JFK assassination.
31. Bishop Carl Stanley alerted the FBI to David Ferry and Jack Martin's involvement in the assassination, which the FBI initially dismissed but Jim Garrison later investigated.
32. Guy Banister, a former FBI agent, operated an office on Camp Street in New Orleans, the same address found on Lee Harvey Oswald's Fair Play for Cuba leaflets.
33. Banister pistol-whipped Jack Martin over threats to expose assassination-related information.
34. David Ferry, known for his alopecia and fake red wig (similar to E. Howard Hunt's Watergate disguise), was also connected to this group.
35. David Ferry died under mysterious circumstances (suicide or suicided) during the Kennedy assassination investigation.
36. Jack Martin, a "go-to guy" for background information despite a troubled personal history, maintained his persona as a priest and bishop for the rest of his life.
37. The American Orthodox Catholic Church, a pre-existing entity formally established in 1965, functioned as an intelligence front whose leader in the Bronx demanded FBI background checks for other affiliated churches.
38. Bishop Carl Stanley, who linked David Ferry to the assassination, was anointed by this leader and died within a month.
39. The speaker was personally involved with this "intelligence front" church from 1968-1969, an experience that revealed to him the strange nature of reality.
40. In 1968, as a high school senior avoiding the Vietnam draft, the speaker and a friend created the "Ottophilus Savonic Orthodox Church of North and South America" as a front to claim ministerial deferment.
41. In June 1968, the speaker and his friend, in full religious regalia, gatecrashed Bobby Kennedy's funeral at St. Patrick's Cathedral the night before the main service, observing Rose Kennedy and Jackie Onassis praying.
42. On the day of Bobby Kennedy's funeral, the speaker and his friend, posing as foreign Slavic Orthodox dignitaries in a rented limo, bypassed Secret Service security and were seated among religious leaders inside St. Patrick's Cathedral.
43. The speaker and his friend led the funeral procession out of the cathedral, with blurry video evidence confirming their presence.
44. After the funeral, they exited through an underground passageway, encountered Rose Kennedy and Jackie Onassis, and then returned to the Bronx via subway.
45. On their way out of the cathedral, they encountered members of the American Orthodox Catholic Church (the intelligence front), who gave them a brochure, leading them to join this church to secure draft deferments.
46. The head of the Selective Service Board offered the speaker a draft deferment in exchange for reporting on Russian agents operating through Orthodox churches in the US.
47. Years later, the speaker discovered correspondence from Propheta, the leader of his former church, asking Jim Garrison to return Jack Martin, confirming the church's intelligence connections.
48. The speaker's later research into the JFK assassination revealed his prior involvement in the American Orthodox Catholic Church, an intelligence front connected to the assassination, which he describes as a "time loop" and a bizarre synchronicity.
49. The Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia, an anti-communist faction, included individuals associated with Lee Harvey Oswald in New Orleans; the speaker's interactions with this church's principal resulted in physical harm to the principal.
50. The Moscow-aligned Russian church on 97th Street and Fifth Avenue was suspected of running agents.
51. KGB agents posing as priests in the Moscow-aligned Russian Orthodox Church could be identified by their unfamiliarity with a secret ordination prayer and gesture.
52. The church leader, Propheta, boasted that J. Edgar Hoover personally vetted his selected priests and bishops, indicating the church served as an intelligence operation ordaining foreign agents, some of whom were unfamiliar with basic religious practices.
53. During the Biafran War, the church consecrated a Nigerian national, "Holy Prophet Aluya," as a Christian bishop at the request of the Nigerian government, as a civil war ploy.
54. The speaker's life involves accidentally attracting intelligence agency attention through serendipitous pursuit of truth, leading to the realization that reality is stranger than it seems, akin to the "Fight Club" analogy.
55. In 1965-1966, the speaker and his family experienced undeniable paranormal phenomena, including table levitations and raps, stemming from Ouija board use and seances.
56. While the initial paranormal phenomena were real, the family became overly entranced with contacting spirits via Ouija board, leading to a baseless warning about an Aboriginal uprising in Australia to the consulate.
57. This experience taught the speaker that initial phenomena can be a hook, but making assumptions about their source and blindly following them is a mistake.
58. Fantasies can become dangerous ideologies that influence everyday lives, even for those who don't believe in the fantastic, a phenomenon that fascinated the speaker when writing *Sinister Forces*.
59. The speaker shifted from Ouija board occultism to exploring how to exert control over phenomena, realizing it begins internally with self-understanding and a recognition that reality is a malleable concept.
60. Control in this context is an an art form, not a science, involving deliberate intention and potentially an acceptance of losing control while pursuing celestial ascent.
61. Magic is an art and science of causing change, and understanding consciousness involves a mix of both, but the scientific demand for repeatability often leads people in the occult field to fake experiences, causing them to "lose their soul."
62. Experiences in the occult or psychic fields, like remote viewing, are often non-repeatable and can lead to negative dynamics or "Faustian blowups" if not "heart-centered."
63. The "Fight Club" analogy applies to defining concepts like magic or occultism because language, with its inherent assumptions and translation difficulties, becomes a barrier to true understanding.
64. Abductees and contactees often report communicating with alien intelligences through images, suggesting a sub-linguistic, mimetic layer of communication.
65. Tom DeLonge initiated contact with the speaker in late 2014, expressing his intent to use his resources and contacts to uncover the truth about the UFO phenomenon.
66. Tom DeLonge likely contacted the speaker after watching his early 2000s Amsterdam presentation on the "secret space program," which linked JFK assassination figures to government UFO secrecy, advocating that individuals' unclassified information should be treated as classified by the government.
67. The speaker does not believe his concept of celestial ascent through seven levels (mapping to the Big Dipper and North Star) is related to the "secret space program" terminology often associated with sensational claims.
68. The speaker has frequently encountered and publicly refuted unfounded claims and "weird combinations" of occult and UFO ideas at conferences, asserting that many presenters speak on topics they do not understand.
69. While documented connections exist between the UFO phenomenon, the JFK assassination, and certain churches, the speaker rejects the idea of a cabal of high-ranking Freemasons, suggesting a "mechanism" is at play, as illustrated by a mystic predicting Kennedy's assassination.
70. Maurice Maeterlinck, a Belgian mystic, wrote a play called *The Cloud That Lifted* before Kennedy was born, which described the assassination of a political leader by a Russian-linked shooter named "Alec" (Lee Harvey Oswald's name in Minsk) from a grassy knoll, suggesting a "control mechanism" at work.
71. Other examples of prescient literature include Morgan Robertson's 1898 novel *Wreck of the Titan* (predicting the Titanic disaster), Dean Koontz's prediction of COVID-19, a modern prophet's prediction of Trump's ear injury, and the 19th-century "Baron Trump" books.
72. A book predicted the Texas Tower sniper incident, including the name of the future police chief who solved the case, before it occurred.
73. The "glitches" in time suggest a malleable reality,